• stochastictrebuchet@sh.itjust.works
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    11 days ago

    I’m OOTL. Are these actual issues people have with the project?

    C++ might not be as memory-safe as Rust, but let’s not pretend a Rust code base wouldn’t be riddled with raw pointers.

    BSD tells me the team probably wants Ladybird to become not just a standalone browser but also a new competing base for others to build a browser on top of – a Chromium competitor. Even though BSD wouldn’t force downstream projects to contribute back upstream, they probably would, since that’s far less resource-intensive than maintaining a fork. (Source: me, who works on proprietary software, can’t use GPL stuff, but contributes back to my open-source dependencies.)

    • Arthur Besse@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      11 days ago

      BSD tells me the team probably wants Ladybird to become not just a standalone browser but also a new competing base for others to build a browser on top of

      skeletor facts until-we-meet-again meme format, saying that every major web browser uses a rendering engine with a copyleft license

      • stochastictrebuchet@sh.itjust.works
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        11 days ago

        Don’t have time to factcheck so going to take your word for it. Interesting bit of knowledge! Honestly wouldn’t have thought that. How else are Chrome, Edge, Brave, Arc, Vivaldi and co getting away with building proprietary layers on top of a copyleft dependency?

        I’m no legal expert. All I know is that when I’m picking dependencies at work, if it’s copyleft, I leave it on the table. I love the spirit of GPL, but I don’t love the idea of failing an audit by potential investors because of avoidable liabilities.

        • Arthur Besse@lemmy.mlEnglish
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          11 days ago

          The three currently-maintained engines which (at their feature intersection) effectively define what “the web” is today are Mozilla’s Gecko, Apple’s WebKit, and Google’s Blink.

          The latter two are both descended from KHTML, which came from the Konquerer browser which was first released as part of KDE 2.0 in 2000, and thus both are LGPL licensed.

          After having their own proprietary engine for over two decades, Microsoft stopped developing it and switched to Google’s fork of Apple’s fork of KDE’s free software web engine.

          Probably Windows will replace its kernel with Linux eventually too, for better or worse :)

          How else are Chrome, Edge, Brave, Arc, Vivaldi and co getting away with building proprietary layers on top of a copyleft dependency?

          They’re allowed to because the LGPL (unlike the normal GPL) is a weak copyleft license.

  • Arthur Besse@lemmy.mlEnglish
    01·
    11 days ago

    with mandatory male pronouns for users in the documentation.

    (and no politics allowed!)

    note

    this issue was resolved eventually by another dev; afaik the lead dev stopped commenting on it after he closed a PR and said people who wanted to remove the docs’ implied assumption of users’ maleness were “advertising personal politics”.

    edit: ok, i went and checked, here are the details:

    • boonhet@lemm.ee
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      11 days ago

      I won’t fight you because I agree. But a lot of people think it’s more free to have freedoms end when it comes to proprietary forks and such.

      To me, that’s just one less freedom.