• kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE FOR YOUR POLITICANS WILL NOT SAVE YOU

    The democrats have proven that they are either unwilling or unable to defend the workers, we must replace the system in its entirely. Liberal democracy must be replaced with workers and the old system of capitalism must be destroyed.

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      This is like the third collection of graphs that are all the same size but use different scales that I’ve seen in the past ~2 weeks. Slightly annoying.

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    Exactly as planned by the new admin.

    Dissolve gov trust, install corporations and christofascists.

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      Young people are also turning away from corporations as well. I have so many people in my collective that outside of oil products and housing we manly provide each other with many services that the government used to handle or corporations made too expensive. It’s not perfect, but damn does it save us all a lot of money.

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        Part of the problem with your sentence is the implied “I don’t trust the government at all” mentality, which is just as ill-informed as saying “I completely trust the government”.

        It’s how conspiracies flourish.

        Literally, all you have to do to distill down any conspiracy is to say, “I don’t trust the government, therefore…” and you can start filling in the blanks.

        Trust law? FCC? Roads? Plumbing? Water treatment? Work safety? The weather? Phones? Batteries? Etc

        Are they perfect? Fuck no. But government regulations have helped save so many lives and improved many more. And yes, it needs further improvements.

        But to gut it to the point of complete distrust and Indiana Jones-ing the idol for a bag of sand, is just gonna get you a giant fucking boulder that crushes everything in its path.

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          It would be more accurate to say I don’t trust large groups of humans. All three of them - government, corporations, and religion - have done awful things. A person can be smart; people are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals.

          I’d say ask the natives if you should trust the government but they’re thin on the ground… because of the government.

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      Not just distrust, but also uncool. Could you imagine trying as hard as you’d need to try, just to have Matt Gaetz be one of your co-workers? Public service has never been less attractive, and we have never more badly needed senators with actual souls.

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      If you convince one side that the government is evil and needs to be small, while your government is in fact evil and large, both sides will want to change the system.

      This is the culmination of the Republicans thirst for power over morals & Putin’s desire for the USSR’s revenge and coming into world power. We all know both governments (Russia & USA) commit funds to propaganda and psychological warfare. Americans have enjoyed a lot the last 40-60 years. Russia was the USSR in many people’s living lifetimes.

      Someone got into bed with Russian mafia, lost a shit ton of money and bankrupted business, and their business acumen was so bad that they needed to make a shady deal to pay off debts, Russia responded with, “How about we make you President? If you help us, the debts are gone.”

      Meanwhile, it’s been over a decade of Trump’s influence. “Alternative facts” was like week 1 of the first term. People barely remember that or the blank pages that were all for show. It’s turns out that humans love novelty, and chaos is a ladder, that if you flood the zone with enough lies, you can make whatever truth you want. A lie goes around the world in an hour while the truth puts its shoes on.

      Liberals in the US are disorganized and so fractured by a desire for originality that they forgot how to organize. People are tired of fighting. There’s little pay for the common person. Wealth distribution isn’t even fathomable.

      There’s 260 working days in a year. If you made $400k/working days for 2025 years (between now & Christ as the right liked to say), you wouldn’t have enough money to beat Bezos’ holdings.

      The everyday person? At the median salary, you’d have to make that trip 3,145 times.

      You’d have to work $37k, for 260 days a year, 2025 Christtimes, 3,145 times.

      We’re too busy fighting each other to even process how broken the wealth gap is. Once you put it in human terms, I don’t see how any moral person could allow that to exist. When we have the crisis of the unhoused, the crisis of violence, the crisis of food and education.

      Christ asks people in Matthew 25:32

      31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, 33 and he will put the sheep at his right hand and the goats at the left. 34 Then the king will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; 35 for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry and gave you food, or thirsty and gave you something to drink? 38 And when was it that we saw you a stranger and welcomed you, or naked and gave you clothing? 39 And when was it that we saw you sick or in prison and visited you?’ 40 And the king will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.’

      I’m a liberal. I’m non-binary. I’m very thankful for my life. I know I haven’t treated my own family the best. We’ve been fighting over all this bullshit…

      I don’t want any harm to anyone, but how can you say you follow Jesus, or Buddha, or Laozi, or the Earth Spirit, “This wealth is okay.” No religion supports it.

      Anyway, I have to believe we’ll get through this. My faith is in humanity. I wish we’d recognize ourselves as one species.

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    Really? The majority of young male voters voted Trump. They voted for dogshit and got it, why are they acting like thats not what happened?

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      People voted Trump in 2016 because of the same mistrust of the government. They probably keep the narrative.

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        When the insurrection happened all I could think was “I dont disagree with insurrection i disagree that they’re doing it for mango mussolini”

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      To be fair, Kamala’s “outreach” to young men can be summed up by “vote for the women you know”.

      Believe it or not, arguing “vote on some else’s behalf” isn’t a winning strategy.

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        I’ve said this before, or tried to.

        Official Democratic party policy is pro-business, pro-stock market, pro Nancy Pelosi’s portfolio. In the parallel universe where Kamala won, inflation and slowly tightening corporate policies are slowly pressing Americans to death, we’re not in a bullshit trade war with Canada, exactly the same number of Palestinians are being killed, absolutely nothing is being done to address healthcare, reproductive rights, gun crime, poverty, disease, the environment, net neutrality or basically anything of that nature.

        Official Democratic party messaging is “At least we’re not the Republicans.” Which means less and less as time goes on. They’ve got no progressive policies. No one in this nation I think is rabidly pro-Democrat. There are a few that are rabidly anti-Republican.

        How many times have I seen this conversation play out: “The Democrats need to reach out to moderate Republicans.” “NO, they need to move to the left!” No, the Democrats need to reach out to the majority of Americans. Which is going to mean actually appealing to men. Which they currently DO. NOT.

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      The DNC passed laws to remove money from politics, Republican SCOTUS judges tore it down in Citizens United, and they’ve lacked the power to make a constitutional amendment or reform the court ever since but they’re always talking about it.

      If people didn’t trust money in politics it would be in their best interests to elect 60 DNC senators.

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        John McCain and Hillary Clinton (yes, her) are more responsible for the bill that hand delivered gave us Citizens United to the supreme court than anyone in the DNC (which doesn’t draft legislation, they mostly justtake bribes fundraise for pro-corporate/pro-Israel lobbies and suppress progressives and independents.)

        they’re responsible for crafting immensely unpopular platform after platform, such as killing single payer healthcare, enabling a half senile Biden campaign, sabotaged the progressives and Bernie (twice), and gave us fucktards Schumer and Pelosi who are among the most ineffectual hated politicians in America.

        please stop trolling this “vote for DNC to defeat fascism” nonsense. THEY HAD 8 YEARS TO PREPARE A TACTICAL RESPONSE TO TRUMPISM AND YET HERE WE ARE.

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          And yet Hillary Clinton has consistently said Citizens United should be overturned all these years.

          How weird that people get so upset when I inform them that all of their worries are an actual official stance of the DNC. You would think it would be a comfort if they actually cared about any such issues.

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            During the 2008 political primary season, it sought to run three television advertisements to promote its political documentary Hillary: The Movie, a film that was critical of Hillary Clinton

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC

            I was being a little tongue in cheek about Hillary’s role, mostly speaking to the fact that her desire to seek power endlessly and run for president against Obama in '08, is what led to the creation of the eponymous film which was the basis for Citizens United filing a suit in court. it might have happened anyway, eventually, but it’s not widely appreciated how much harm she and the DNC have done to our political culture, including losing to Trump so spectacularly in '16.

            every significant Democrat has said they’re opposed to Citizens United… none of them have actually done anything to accomplish overturning it. actions speak louder than words. same with Roe v Wade, they had decades to codify it and failed.

            my whole point is not about what they oppose or support, it’s that they’re ineffectual in either direction. they routinely fail at shaking up the system and manipulating the courts in favor of the 99% of Americans who they claim to support. meanwhile the GOP runs roughshod over jurisprudence and the courts and civil liberties. Dems are still better than GOP by miles and miles, but nowhere near adequate as an opposition political party.

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              The basis for Citizens United was that the Lobby Group named Citizens United and several others wanted to use money to influence politics, a law drafted in 1995 by Democrats and pushed through in 2002 by Democrats stopped them, and technically they had the constitutional protection of free speech to influence politics with money as interpreted by the SCOTUS after hearings occurring between 2008 and 2010.

              There is no vast widespan conspiracy to dig into, it’s really that simple.

              Hillary Clinton’s approval was at one point 90% among registered Democrats. She’s been a political activist for so long that she shared a stage with Bernie Sanders during the civil rights movement (although she later had a huge gaff and asked where Bernie was while she was doing that because clearly she didn’t remember he was there with her). SOURCE: PEW RESEARCH

              If you want effective democrats then put a majority in the house and 60 in the senate.