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    As someone who’s worked on printer firmware before, it makes me really sad that a company can get away with making a consumer decide between getting access to any of the actually useful changes that engineers — who have no say over ink cartridge policy — put effort towards making the best product they could, or not having said ink cartridge policies forced on them.

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    2 days ago

    Sometimes I wonder why there’s no DIY Paper printer after seeing so…much shit in Printer Company ?
    We had advance DIY 3D Printer that can made various objects with various size and materials and yet there’s no DIY Paper printer until now

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      It’s not really surprising. The demand for printers has fallen off a cliff due to wide acceptance of digital alternatives. People barely need printers now and as such aren’t willing to pay much for them.

      This is further exacerbated by the reality that a printer is actually a fairly high precision device and expensive to manufacture.

      So you have an expensive to manufacture device that consumers aren’t willing to pay much for. So what happens? They adopt a consumable based business with the printers being locked down to force you to buy their overpriced, high margin consumables that have a low absolute price so consumers don’t think about it much.

      Let’s say that we regulate away this lock in. What will happen? Well the price of printers would have to climb to match their actual cost to manufacture. That price would likely turn off consumers from buying them at all. The end result would be the end of the printer business altogether. Maybe not a bad thing as not printing at all is likely a better ecological outcome.

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        Impressive…sadly it produce low quality print, but it’s good to see somebody actually made DIY Paper printer

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    Anytime a company reduces the functionality of a device through software or firmware they should have to offer to buy back the hardware. The depreciation rate should be set at time of purchase so you know how much you get if they neuter it a year from now.

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      Why allow depreciation? You wouldn’t have bought it with the reduced functionality, and it’s going to cost you time and effort to remove it and replace it with something else. Inflation will reduce the value more than enough.

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    Bullshittery aside, “HP Inc.” Instead of just “HP” Is on the nose and has to be deliberate on the journalists behalf

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      The actual reason is because in 2015 “Hewlett Packard” split into two companies, one called HP, Inc, and one called HP Enterprise. The print and consumer PC business went to HPI, while the server and network hardware went to HPE. So, writing just “HP” could be interpreted as ambiguous.

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    I must buy a printer soon. Thank you for reminding me to avoid HP products.

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        This is the way. My brother printer is a hl2040, came out sometime in the early 2000s. It still prints. I’ve replaced the toner cartridge once since my Dad gave it to me back in 2016.

        The other day I needed to print something out and this was after I had reinstalled linux.

        Just fired right up, instantly recognized. Its one of the best pieces of hardware I own.

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      Laser printer and probably brother, it’s worth the extra up front cost 10 fold

      For an old color Dell Laser printer I got from a thrift store years ago I can find 4 color sets of toner for it for $40-60

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      Well, here’s the story: The old HP MuFu finally caved in, so dad was going to the local multimedia retailer. I told him to get a Brother Ecotank, since i have to support it. But the store only had HP MuFu, so he got a HP MuFu that is even worse than the old one, despite being a laser printer instead of an inkjet. And the f*cking toner cost a whole 140€.

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          Right but that’s all the more reason that ink jets are trash.

          The ink heads dry out. The ink cartridges also dry out. So if you’re not using the printer a lot then those things tend to dry out forcing you to swap them, otherwise when you print there will be areas where the ink didn’t apply all the way. If you don’t have these problems you will eventually.

          Lasers do not have this problem. You could print once every 5 years and each time the print will be perfect without any problems. You’ll only need to change the toner cartridge once it is completely used up. It won’t dry out on you making you prematurely replace it.

          Ink jets are cheap but you get exactly what you pay for.