Recently found a pretty interesting video about China and how they combat homelessness (sorry on reddit). You can buy a 1 room apartment for $15.000 and the monthly costs are minimal. Of course I don’t truly know if there really isn’t any homelessness in China, but we absolutely have the technology to solve this problem lol
It’s probably mostly accurate, most other developed nations DO prioritize housing and caring for their homeless because it just makes sense that if you don’t want decay in your population, you do SOMETHING to take care of them.
Now that said, I am far more concerned/curious how China is handling one of the leading causes of homelessness which is mental and physical health problems, and how much access the average person starting to slip through the cracks can get to proper healthcare.
I am not well versed on China’s healthcare situation though, and it’s been almost 17 years since I’ve been there last, when I was there people seemed kind of… miserable. Overworked, unable to afford more than the most basic amenities and living conditions. At least the working-class drivers and clerks. Honestly, China 17 years ago feels a lot like many places in the US right now.
Well, for 2022 I found that the average wage is 2600¥ or 330€ per month (with enormous differencs between the regions). That means a flat is 4 annual salaries on average, assuming ithe 15000$ or 14000€. That’s not that much off a difference to Germany, where I am from.
So one could argue that this is just the advise “get a job and buy a house!!!” To a homeless person.
But absolute scale makes a difference, especially if you compare having a job or not, and how expensive it is to give a home to a homeless person. My impression was that they just give you an apartment for free.
The proper comparison would be complicated, when building and maintaining an apartment block, how much money is siphoned off as profit to the capitalists?
Also e.g. Germany has a lot of regulations which is sometimes nice, but also lead to higher costs. Like converting your car to electric isn’t done in Germany, because regulations demand you make an EMF test which costs something 5-10 thousand euro. So there are practically none. That held back private innovation for EVs. There are countless regulations for building too which might sound good on paper but have been tweaked to only benefit the capitalists and make costs go up and projects take forever.
Then in Germany you wouldn’t give an apartment as a homeless person for free, you’d have to show that you’re jobless and that has to be verified then they give you money then you can pay rent to someone. Although I’m not quite sure how the situation in Germany is overall.
In case your source for that is serpentza, then you should check this reply with more links debunking this guy and his racist views.
Obviously China is not a utopia and with a billion people things will be bad at some place or another. But cherry picked examples and wild accusations like “they will dissappear” is just anti-China propaganda.
The news articles I read said they offer homeless people housing for work, if they refuse they are “reeducated” which is one of the many ways people dissapear in the China meat grinder.
One one hand, yes he does tell the truth about China sometimes. But he also have this weird vibe like putting “My Chinese Wife” in youtube titles (like imagine a white guy in America putting “My Black Wife” in the youtube title) or even a video title designed to clickbait people like “Are Chinese Men Cowards” which its just like WTF is that title, he did answer “No” in the video, but this guy clearly doesn’t care about Political Correctness (aka: Politeness).
But he literally made a video recently proclaiming the USA is “the best” country in the world. Not “one of the best”, he said “the best”. The Video was made after trump won the election for the second time.
You can’t take this guy seriously.
The homeless thing is real tho. They exist. But my point is: serpenza is a joke.
“America is the best country I’ve ever lived in” Which is because he have lived in 3 countries, South Africa, PRC, USA, of course the US seems the best, because he haven’t lived (as in long-tern) in EU countries, but then he doubled down in the next sentence:
“America is the best country in the world” LOL nope. Dude forgot the EU Exists. 🤣
Video was published in December 30, 2024, like… bruh… forgot the LGBT people? Minorities? Immigrants? 🤔 This is white privilage in action. Maybe he isn’t malicious, but this is peak ignorance and being totally out of touch, even if he has good intents.
Serpentza is compelling and interesting on a cursory glance. And I don’t know if he is consciously racist or how far his biases go. The bigger problem is that there are “algorithmic forces” shaping content and content creators.
The content creators wants to make money, needs to make money. They will experiment with various things. They make compelling content, don’t have time to deeply study history or sociology or economics, only enough to project an image. Psychological needs from narcissism might make them unable to resist rationalizations in exchanges for clicks.
There have been quite a few cases with supposedly liberal or leftist icons suddenly turning to reactionary rhetoric. It’s hard to understand and somewhat traumatizing. Recently TYT. I think the moral of the story is that much of it is subconsciously performative and not well thought out beliefs. And economic reality makes ideology a lie.
I think Serpentza fits in there somewhere, if he’s not outright paid indirectly by the state department to spread propaganda.
I think he realized the US’s turn towards fascism and amp up the right-wing rhetoic to secure his adjustment of status. AFIAK, he is still a citizen of South Africa, and I’m not even sure if he has permanent residency in the US, or just some visa. I think he’s bootlicking to make sure he doesn’t get deported to South Africa.
And he’s a cishet white man, so this spiral into fascism doesn’t affect him, which is why he’s too blind to see the shit that’s been happening.
And its also the fact that he criticized South Africa and China too much, he just has to keep his mouth shut about the US to stay out of trouble, kinda similar to how Snowden went against the US, and now he is in a situation where he can’t criticize the Russian government.
You have no actual evidence for this assertion besides your brain on McCarthyism. I think you start from your preconceptions and then work backwards, solely within your mind palace.
Recently found a pretty interesting video about China and how they combat homelessness (sorry on reddit). You can buy a 1 room apartment for $15.000 and the monthly costs are minimal. Of course I don’t truly know if there really isn’t any homelessness in China, but we absolutely have the technology to solve this problem lol
It’s probably mostly accurate, most other developed nations DO prioritize housing and caring for their homeless because it just makes sense that if you don’t want decay in your population, you do SOMETHING to take care of them.
Now that said, I am far more concerned/curious how China is handling one of the leading causes of homelessness which is mental and physical health problems, and how much access the average person starting to slip through the cracks can get to proper healthcare.
I am not well versed on China’s healthcare situation though, and it’s been almost 17 years since I’ve been there last, when I was there people seemed kind of… miserable. Overworked, unable to afford more than the most basic amenities and living conditions. At least the working-class drivers and clerks. Honestly, China 17 years ago feels a lot like many places in the US right now.
Well, for 2022 I found that the average wage is 2600¥ or 330€ per month (with enormous differencs between the regions). That means a flat is 4 annual salaries on average, assuming ithe 15000$ or 14000€. That’s not that much off a difference to Germany, where I am from.
So one could argue that this is just the advise “get a job and buy a house!!!” To a homeless person.
But absolute scale makes a difference, especially if you compare having a job or not, and how expensive it is to give a home to a homeless person. My impression was that they just give you an apartment for free.
The proper comparison would be complicated, when building and maintaining an apartment block, how much money is siphoned off as profit to the capitalists?
Also e.g. Germany has a lot of regulations which is sometimes nice, but also lead to higher costs. Like converting your car to electric isn’t done in Germany, because regulations demand you make an EMF test which costs something 5-10 thousand euro. So there are practically none. That held back private innovation for EVs. There are countless regulations for building too which might sound good on paper but have been tweaked to only benefit the capitalists and make costs go up and projects take forever.
Then in Germany you wouldn’t give an apartment as a homeless person for free, you’d have to show that you’re jobless and that has to be verified then they give you money then you can pay rent to someone. Although I’m not quite sure how the situation in Germany is overall.
In China if you are homeless the cops pick you up and say if you work as a street cleaner you will get a home in excange.
If you don’t like that arrangement you dissappear.
In case your source for that is serpentza, then you should check this reply with more links debunking this guy and his racist views.
Obviously China is not a utopia and with a billion people things will be bad at some place or another. But cherry picked examples and wild accusations like “they will dissappear” is just anti-China propaganda.
I don’t know who that is.
I read news articles.
The news articles I read said they offer homeless people housing for work, if they refuse they are “reeducated” which is one of the many ways people dissapear in the China meat grinder.
I went to Shanghai last year and there were, in fact, homeless people around. Not many at all, but I was surprised to see any.
I got a weird vibe with serpentza.
One one hand, yes he does tell the truth about China sometimes. But he also have this weird vibe like putting “My Chinese Wife” in youtube titles (like imagine a white guy in America putting “My Black Wife” in the youtube title) or even a video title designed to clickbait people like “Are Chinese Men Cowards” which its just like WTF is that title, he did answer “No” in the video, but this guy clearly doesn’t care about Political Correctness (aka: Politeness).
But he literally made a video recently proclaiming the USA is “the best” country in the world. Not “one of the best”, he said “the best”. The Video was made after trump won the election for the second time.
You can’t take this guy seriously.
The homeless thing is real tho. They exist. But my point is: serpenza is a joke.
Edit: This is the video where serpentza said the “America is Best” thing: https://youtu.be/1hePvgiYyhU?t=1029 (Starts at 17:09)
“America is the best country I’ve ever lived in” Which is because he have lived in 3 countries, South Africa, PRC, USA, of course the US seems the best, because he haven’t lived (as in long-tern) in EU countries, but then he doubled down in the next sentence:
“America is the best country in the world” LOL nope. Dude forgot the EU Exists. 🤣
Video was published in December 30, 2024, like… bruh… forgot the LGBT people? Minorities? Immigrants? 🤔 This is white privilage in action. Maybe he isn’t malicious, but this is peak ignorance and being totally out of touch, even if he has good intents.
Serpentza is compelling and interesting on a cursory glance. And I don’t know if he is consciously racist or how far his biases go. The bigger problem is that there are “algorithmic forces” shaping content and content creators.
The content creators wants to make money, needs to make money. They will experiment with various things. They make compelling content, don’t have time to deeply study history or sociology or economics, only enough to project an image. Psychological needs from narcissism might make them unable to resist rationalizations in exchanges for clicks.
There have been quite a few cases with supposedly liberal or leftist icons suddenly turning to reactionary rhetoric. It’s hard to understand and somewhat traumatizing. Recently TYT. I think the moral of the story is that much of it is subconsciously performative and not well thought out beliefs. And economic reality makes ideology a lie.
I think Serpentza fits in there somewhere, if he’s not outright paid indirectly by the state department to spread propaganda.
I think he realized the US’s turn towards fascism and amp up the right-wing rhetoic to secure his adjustment of status. AFIAK, he is still a citizen of South Africa, and I’m not even sure if he has permanent residency in the US, or just some visa. I think he’s bootlicking to make sure he doesn’t get deported to South Africa.
And he’s a cishet white man, so this spiral into fascism doesn’t affect him, which is why he’s too blind to see the shit that’s been happening.
And its also the fact that he criticized South Africa and China too much, he just has to keep his mouth shut about the US to stay out of trouble, kinda similar to how Snowden went against the US, and now he is in a situation where he can’t criticize the Russian government.
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Yes because they kill the ones who don’t agree to work for housing
Thanks for helping explain how homelessness works in china you dumb bot
You have no actual evidence for this assertion besides your brain on McCarthyism. I think you start from your preconceptions and then work backwards, solely within your mind palace.
Yeah no, there’s decades of China’s documented oppression of its people.
Sorry you are too stupid or proud or whatever to engage with the real world like a big boy.
It sure sucks when you can’t just ban all dissent!
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