• jaschen@lemm.ee
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    3 days ago

    I’m no pedo, but what you do in your own home and hurts nobody is your own thing.

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      Yes, but how is the AI making the images or videos? It has to be trained on SOMETHING.

      So, regardless of direct harm or not, harm is done at some point in the process and it needs to be stopped before it slips and gets worse because people “get used to” it.

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        Ai can combine two things. It can train on completely normal pictures of children, and it can train on completely normal adult porn, and then it can put those together.

        This is the same reason it can do something like Godzilla with Sailor Moon’s hair, not because it trained on images of Godzilla with Sailor Moon’s hair, but because it can combine those two separate things.

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        I wouldn’t think it needs to have child porn in the training data to be able to generate it. It has porn as the data, it knows what kids look like, merge the two. I think that works for anything AI knows about, make this resemble this.

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            It seems pretty understandable that companies wouldn’t allow it, it’s more that if it is illegal (like in some places) then that gets into really sketchy territory imo.

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            2 days ago

            I agree it shouldn’t be accepted, but I disagree on being allowed. I think it should be allowed because it doesn’t hurt anyone.

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        needs to be stopped before it slips and gets worse because people “get used to” it.

        Ah, right, almost finally forgot the killer games rhetoric.

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          I also don’t agree with the killer games thing, but humans are very adaptable as a species.

          Normally that’s a good thing, but in a case like this exposure to something shocking or upsetting can make it less shocking or upsetting over time (obviously not in every case). So, if AI is being used for something like this and being reported on isn’t it possible that people might slowly get desensitized to it over time?

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            But what if pedophiles in therapy are less likely to commit a crime if they have access to respective porn? Even better then, if it can be AI generated, no?

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              Japan is country that has legal drawn cp. It’s available in physical store and online. Yet Japan is much lower than most developed country in the world in terms of actual sexual child abuse.