Which was clearly a bad call to cater to that populist demand. Trump clearly has dementia too, but we’re still talking about Joe Biden with progressives. The left. Care more about Joe Biden than Mango Musilini
The only person still talking about it in this thread is the guy that seems to believe that Biden was on the 2024 ballot and that hardly represents “the left”.
Oh my friend i got like 30 of them in my comments from other posts. They are legion and if you ask them or a republican, they are the real left. They represent us more than i’d care to admit. We have a branding issue.
I guess the reason I don’t see them is that they’re all hounding you, then. Also I would never ask a Republican’s opinion on where someone falls on the political spectrum, they think center-right democrats are communists or somehow going to slippery slope the world there in under a decade while actively fighting most left-wing ideology.
The left doesn’t have a branding problem so much as people are stupid as hell and equally stubborn so trying to explain that the center is not, in fact, the extreme left just because the only other option is full-blown far-right fascism is a Sisyphean task. And here in Canada we actually do have three choices which is both better because we have choice and so much worse because even then we’re still considering the Conservative party valid despite all its major failures.
Communicating across political lines and ideologies is one of the most challenging things I do in a day. I trade complex derivatives for a living. Lots of calculus. I still don’t really know how to reach the far left or far right, but we need to because they are a growing force, and horseshoe theory turns them into a dangerous unified party.
People are stupid as hell because the dems rolled over in congress to George Bush and the republicans stripping education. People are also not that stupid. I find them to be scared, distracted, angry. Most of them understand complex concepts if you can voice them in their language. You have to avoid a mine field of triggering language. Many times they shut down and scream fuck joe biden. you have to back off let them breath and not push it.
At the end of the day part of our country has fallen for a cult of death and money. I still think we need to look at our countrymen like our family if we lost them to a cult. We have always had a branding problem because republicans are slowly winning the race to erase all progress since FDR.
We have lost the narrative. if i had a dollar for every time i heard a lib say “we can’t do that because it will hurt the people and blame it on us” i’d be rich and people would still be hurt.
Ok here’s the deal though, I have a not insurmountable but not pathetic bar I expected to be crossed. If people can see the fucking obvious, in your face shit that’s happening today, where even the right-wing propaganda machine isn’t really hiding it and still believe in 90% of this bullshit then they are stupid. If I have to handhold them and tell them they’re special and use only the best words and still pray that things will turn out even margainally ok then those people are a dangerous, stupid liability. A dangerous and stupid liability that I would still like to see have fair wages and healthcare, mind you, but oh my god they are not smart because you can send them to a university and train them like a Sea World dolphin to do basic tricks(university should also be free, of course).
I’m sorry was there a typo in that lib comment? You’re saying that generally those people agree that they shouldn’t do things that hurt people? And that they actually fear consequences? Those are good things.
I still have incredibly strong doubts that you even know what the far-left is beyond a handful of loud tankies you bump into on the internet.
I am super duper confident when welfare and social services get cutt down we will hear the collective screaming of MAGA first. I’m kinda into seeing my theory in action.
The lib comment was mostly directed at schumer and caving on the CR. Lots of people supported his decision, i think people are getting hurt either way, dont give up any leverage. The people arn’t going to really hurt if the government shuts down for a week. especially if it opens back up less violent and oppressive. But they will see that hey wait i am a recipient of the governments services I need those.
I think we need to let people touch the stove a bit, not starve them to death but im pretty sure trump voters need a reminder that they are cashing welfare checks in greater proportion than most.
I have a bunch of leftist friends who are really awesome people and do a ton of work for the community. They are our social workers, teachers genuinely people you love to have around. I know the difference between a leftist and a tankie. Fuck hate tankies my god.
Trump is deporting pro Palestine supporters for exercising their first amendment rights, and here you are screeching about bidens dementia. It is so hard to tell a MAGA from a progressive which one are you? Deporter or Deportee?
I’m not wrong, though. :)
You are though. Joe Biden dropped out of the race you dolt.
Which was clearly a bad call to cater to that populist demand. Trump clearly has dementia too, but we’re still talking about Joe Biden with progressives. The left. Care more about Joe Biden than Mango Musilini
The only person still talking about it in this thread is the guy that seems to believe that Biden was on the 2024 ballot and that hardly represents “the left”.
Oh my friend i got like 30 of them in my comments from other posts. They are legion and if you ask them or a republican, they are the real left. They represent us more than i’d care to admit. We have a branding issue.
I guess the reason I don’t see them is that they’re all hounding you, then. Also I would never ask a Republican’s opinion on where someone falls on the political spectrum, they think center-right democrats are communists or somehow going to slippery slope the world there in under a decade while actively fighting most left-wing ideology.
The left doesn’t have a branding problem so much as people are stupid as hell and equally stubborn so trying to explain that the center is not, in fact, the extreme left just because the only other option is full-blown far-right fascism is a Sisyphean task. And here in Canada we actually do have three choices which is both better because we have choice and so much worse because even then we’re still considering the Conservative party valid despite all its major failures.
Communicating across political lines and ideologies is one of the most challenging things I do in a day. I trade complex derivatives for a living. Lots of calculus. I still don’t really know how to reach the far left or far right, but we need to because they are a growing force, and horseshoe theory turns them into a dangerous unified party.
People are stupid as hell because the dems rolled over in congress to George Bush and the republicans stripping education. People are also not that stupid. I find them to be scared, distracted, angry. Most of them understand complex concepts if you can voice them in their language. You have to avoid a mine field of triggering language. Many times they shut down and scream fuck joe biden. you have to back off let them breath and not push it.
At the end of the day part of our country has fallen for a cult of death and money. I still think we need to look at our countrymen like our family if we lost them to a cult. We have always had a branding problem because republicans are slowly winning the race to erase all progress since FDR.
We have lost the narrative. if i had a dollar for every time i heard a lib say “we can’t do that because it will hurt the people and blame it on us” i’d be rich and people would still be hurt.
Ok here’s the deal though, I have a not insurmountable but not pathetic bar I expected to be crossed. If people can see the fucking obvious, in your face shit that’s happening today, where even the right-wing propaganda machine isn’t really hiding it and still believe in 90% of this bullshit then they are stupid. If I have to handhold them and tell them they’re special and use only the best words and still pray that things will turn out even margainally ok then those people are a dangerous, stupid liability. A dangerous and stupid liability that I would still like to see have fair wages and healthcare, mind you, but oh my god they are not smart because you can send them to a university and train them like a Sea World dolphin to do basic tricks(university should also be free, of course).
I’m sorry was there a typo in that lib comment? You’re saying that generally those people agree that they shouldn’t do things that hurt people? And that they actually fear consequences? Those are good things.
I still have incredibly strong doubts that you even know what the far-left is beyond a handful of loud tankies you bump into on the internet.
I am super duper confident when welfare and social services get cutt down we will hear the collective screaming of MAGA first. I’m kinda into seeing my theory in action.
That made me genuinely laugh.
The lib comment was mostly directed at schumer and caving on the CR. Lots of people supported his decision, i think people are getting hurt either way, dont give up any leverage. The people arn’t going to really hurt if the government shuts down for a week. especially if it opens back up less violent and oppressive. But they will see that hey wait i am a recipient of the governments services I need those.
I think we need to let people touch the stove a bit, not starve them to death but im pretty sure trump voters need a reminder that they are cashing welfare checks in greater proportion than most.
I have a bunch of leftist friends who are really awesome people and do a ton of work for the community. They are our social workers, teachers genuinely people you love to have around. I know the difference between a leftist and a tankie. Fuck hate tankies my god.
Trump is deporting pro Palestine supporters for exercising their first amendment rights, and here you are screeching about bidens dementia. It is so hard to tell a MAGA from a progressive which one are you? Deporter or Deportee?