• F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    Imma go out on a limb here and blame late stage Capitalism and some sort of pesticide or whatever that could solve the problem if it costed 5 cents more but the solution is to save that money and let the bees die.

    Imma take my chances on that.

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    6 hours ago

    Bees have been under assault for a while.

    It’s hive mites. The Varroa mite is going to wipe out all bees from the planet. And there’s not a damn thing we can do about it.

    Source: talked to a beekeeper.

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    Specifically, honey bees (Apis mellifera). Native bees that aren’t colony dwellers may not be impacted the same by the mites.

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      Who cares then, aren’t they only useful for monocropping large farms? Most US bee enthusiasts would instantly cull every honey bee if they could.

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        Personally, I care because I love honey, farm grown food, and they are a poster child for all bees. Without them, there is certainly a lot less care for native bees. While yes they are primarily important for large monocropped farms, that’s your food. Like, so much of your food. Natuu is very bee populations aren’t sufficient or interested in pollinating our food crops, so yes we should really care.

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              Honeybees compete for resources with native bees and are much more efficient foragers, and it’s hard to state the scope of impact they have had on native bee populations, but most believe it to be significant.

              They were introduced to North America in the 1600s and then again, over repeated colonizations as colonizers were frustrated that native bees didn’t produce honey. Native Americans called them “white man’s flies”.

              Africanized honey bees were introduced from South America around the 1990s. Which are even more aggressive in their foraging and nature then their European cousins, although produce more honey.

              Native bees are relatively docile and some variants lack the ability to sting at all.

              Here is an article, or op ed about the problem: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-problem-with-honey-bees/

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    I was worried so I looked for the source of the information, it seems to be from 'Washington State University" from their website they say it concerns “Commercial honey bee colony”, so it might not be all bees (I don’t know enough to say what the difference is exactly), they say “60 to 70% losses” (not 80), and they also say “Over the past decade, annual losses have typically ranged between 40 and 50%.”, so it is probably worrying but not as much as the CBS article was making it seem.

    Source: https://news.wsu.edu/news/2025/03/25/honey-bee-colony-declines-grow-as-wsu-researchers-work-to-fight-losses/

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        7 hours ago

        Part of the panicking should be wild bees. They’re dying at accelerated rates.

        We also know why, commercial bee keeping is part of it, as is hobbies bee keeping.

        And pesticides… and monoculture farming.

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        I don’t know whether you were satiric or not, but it feels like it, hard to tell on a text medium. No hard feelings either way 😄

        If you were “mocking my post in a satiric way”: I didn’t mean to say that nothing should be done or that it was not a reason to worry. I actually believe we should protect our ecosystems, but I think we need accurate data and this kind of posts, even if they convey the “right” message according to me, are misleading and create false information about what is going on. I truly believe we should try to avoid doing this.

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      7 hours ago

      This story is about domesticated honeybees, which have been declining for decades due to Colony Collapse Disorder and other stressors. Native North American bees are in their own long-term decline, with 1 in 4 species at risk of extinction. However, domesticated honeybees are tremendously important for the pollination and yield of many crops important to humans, and this population drop, thought to be the largest annual losses seen, should be considered in the context of the longer decline, and the possibility that we could hit a tipping point when pollination, and a crucial pillar of our food system, could fail.

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    That’s $15 billion worth of crops.

    They just can’t break out of that frame, even when the topic is EVERY LIVING THING FUCKING STARVING TO DEATH.

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        As one stuck in Cheetoland, I deeply apologize for what he’s doing despite the efforts that had been undertaken to stop him and if he does end up attempting to annex your nation, I want you to know I preemptively surrender and defect to the Canadian Armed Forces.

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    15 hours ago

    The longer I live the more I see modern civilization collapse inevitable and happening in the relatively near future.

    How the fuck do you even prepare for something like that?

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      13 hours ago

      Fall back to the fundamentals - communities, you’re part of many, join more. The people in your community can work together for survival or or turn against each other. You have a chance if you work with people, but not much of one if you try to lone wolf it. History is prologue. (your community should include everyone you can get on board, I’m not saying huddle up, I’m saying join the fight - It’s wealth disparity and it’s a global war)

      If we were to do that now, we could take it all back in a week, but we won’t do that. Humans have to lose something important to them before they really take a look around and desperation kicks in, and too many aren’t seeing much difference yet. If you really connect to your community, they’ll see your suffereing or someone elses and that might be the catalist for them, but we’re easy to pick off piecemeal and lazy as fuck, so we’re losing meters every day.

      There’s volumes of context here and I’m getting dragged into minutia, but we die apart, live together. That’s the formula, history proves it.

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      15 hours ago

      U don’t. U just watch it collapse. If u cannot control something, don’t worry too much. That’s my take. Enjoy everyday.

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    15 hours ago

    Shame. The US is a beautiful country and psycho cult rednecks have let deregulation ruin such beautiful wilderness.