wikipedia should install ai mazes on their servers
Are there alternatives besides Cloudflare’s solution?
Nepenthes does about the same thing but isn’t managed by a corp.
We should stop using ai
I still struggle with a use case for artificial intelligence in my own life. I play around with it all and I’m just like, it doesn’t do a good job. Also, I think humanity is missing the plot, you know? Like, we don’t need government. If government isn’t going to do government. Government serves the people, not corporations. Or at least it should. I don’t know, I think we’re entering in times. At some point, I think people will pray for nuclear war, because life will be so miserable. That it would be better than just to end it all.
Actual AI?
Imagine your phone knows that you have a business meeting downtown today. It’s already reserved a parking space for you, set your car to warm up before you leave and looped your contact in on your ETA, along with automatically notifying you of any delays. Then, your kid wakes up this morning in with a horrible toothache, you ask your phone what to do and it rings up your family dentist, who has a full schedule today, but makes you a referral nearby. You agree to try that other dentist today, and your AI books an appointment, checks your meeting today, coordinates with their AIs and approves a 15 minute delay so you can get to the dentist. It also notifies your kid’s school of their absence and has their teachers AI automatically queued up to send transcripts, notes and homework assignmenta from today’s classes.
That’s the kind of stuff actual AI can do. Overgrown autocorrect? It’s basically a multi-billion dollar Magic Eightball.
Like, we don’t need government.
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I found LLMs helpfuls to develop some scripts and answer some simple trivial questions (like how does house property work in China). I could have looked for that in a regular search engine though. But that’s it, I am still happy looking for things myself and investigating since you can’t really trust their answers.
even better stop joining major platforms like social media and then they won’t be able to create data sets. Be a leach, especially when they give it away for free, but don’t contribute to the project. Understand how it works, sure. But it seems like most of humanity says they don’t want something, yet they do the contrary. It’s like we choose to comply before we even ask to comply for the fear of missing out. But if you look at what is today, what are you really missing out on?
So, uh. What about Lemmy?
They can also crawl this publically-accessible social media source for their data sets.
I’m on board with abandoning mainstream social media, but my point is that your suggestion would not solve the problem just relocate it. A better solution to the AI conglomerates stealing everyone’s data from the open Internet is legislation and regulations - ie tackling the whole ‘stealing data’ component, along with stronger privacy regulations for everyone to make it harder for them to do the same in the future. It’s nice seeing the EU taking some positive steps, but we will not see the US take any steps in that direction anytime soon, due to corporate capture of their politicians and the AI companies all being in the top 10 most wealthy companies in the US.
It’s nice seeing the EU taking some positive steps
Yet they helped introducing the super cookies and are trying to end encryption on communications.
This is an example of corporate terrorism sponsored by our own government. Elon Musk loves to see himself as the villain in Ready Player One. And this is not a joke you can look it up. Big tech is waging war against American citizens, and no longer do we have any control of our government, and the Democrats will not save us. The electoral processes will not save us. This is just hard for some people to accept, that’s why things have to fall apart before they get a clue. Unfortunately, those that are wiser are going to feel the flames first.
Life is “simpler” when you realize governments (and hence the State) are just bullies that exercise their power through physical violence or economical violence.
Governments aren’t fundamentally bad. Having a governing body along with laws and regulations is a good thing when done beneficently. For example, government is responsible for access to public education, libraries, banking, worker safety, and hospitals - all of which are objectively good things to have as a society. The problems usually occur when some individuals have more power/influence than others to choose what the government does, which is what’s happening in much of the world right now.
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And the quality of the AI output sucks. I was recently looking for information about positive convention for yaw, pitch, and roll in aircraft. I was looking at az and yaw and got reasonable results from the AI, but when I looked at pitch and el all of the results were about elevator pitches. Even when I spelled out elevation it insisted on elevator pitches. I scroll past the AI results as a matter of principle, but I usually look at them so I have something specific to complain about when people ask why I am so virulently anti-AI.
The other day I tried to have it help me with a programming task on a personal project. I am an experienced programmer, but I only “get by” in Python (typically just by looking up the documentation for the standard library). I thought, “OK. This is it. I will ask Llama 3.3 and GPT4 for help.”
That shit literally set me back a weekend. It gave me such bad approaches and answers, that I could tell were bad (aforementioned experience in programming, degree in comp sci, etc) that I got confused about writing Python. Had I just done what I usually do, which is to look up the documentation and use my brain, I would have gotten my weekend task done a whole weekend sooner.
It scares me to think what people are doing to themselves by relying on this, especially if they’re novices.
AI is useful for basic, mundane tasks and that’s about it. Trying to force it to be some sort of Uber search engine is such a bad idea.
Yea that’s a bad example of what to use ai for at least right now. You’re going to get bad results with that question.
It’s good for things, if you pay.
I don’t want to ask ai. Google automatically gives me ai search results that are piss poor. Those useless results still use energy to generate.
Laws should be passed in all countries that AI crawlers should request permission before crawling whatever target site. I haver no pity to AI “thiefs” that get their models poisoned. F…ing plague, wasn’t enough the adware and spyware…
i doubt the recent uptick in traffic is from “stealing data” for training but rather from agents scraping them for context, eg Edge Copilot, Google’s AI search, SearchGPT, etc.
poisoning the data will likely not help in this situation since there’s a human on the other side that will just do the same search again given unsatisfactory results. like how retries and timeouts can cause huge outages for web scale companies, poisoning search results will likely cause this type of traffic to increase and further increase the chances of DoS and higher bandwidth usage.
So? Break context scrapers till they give up, on your site or completely.
easily said
An HTTP request is a request. Servers are free to rate limit or deny access
Rate limiting in itself requires resources that are not always available. For one thing you can only rate limit individuals you can identify so you need to keep data about past requests in memory and attach counters to them and even then that won’t help if the requests come from IPs that are easily changed.
Artificial intelligence is really just a Swiss army, knife, version of a search engine. It serves the interest of the ruling elite and is a way the uber wealthy can make America stupid again or even dumber than dumb. Like we move forward fast but we always miss the point and we’re always putting out fires that once were easily manageable. The code base is growing we’re all saying a lot of nothing. It’s really just drowning out voices and good ideas just to centralize everything. It’s about power. It’s about control. It’s about the man behind the curtain in the wizard of Oz. I like technology a lot and I would like it to be in the hands of working people and not the uber wealthy. So I am no techno optimist at all, not until we fix that issue.
To be clear, network costs represent a tiny fraction of WMF’s expenses. Much of WMF’s budget goes to social programs, not technical upkeep.