Meme of Giancarlo Esposito / Gus adjusting his tie with the caption “You won’t buy Assassin’s Creed Shadows because you’re racist, I won’t buy it because Ubisoft games are shit. We’re not the same”
Why do people manufacture arguments like this? Who is arguing that one is okay while the other isn’t? A couple random people on the Internet?
The only thing I can think of is The Last Samurai is a 20 year old movie and that somehow means not bringing up this historic fictional movie = you’re okay about a white dude becoming a samurai but not okay about a black dude becoming a samurai.
Whataboutism at its finest.
Did it not occur to this person that perhaps some people just don’t care about the movie, haven’t seen the movie, or plain just didn’t bring it up because it’s a movie? Is it “double standards” for one to pick their battles and not be enraged at everything all the time? My god this shit is exhausting.
Disclaimer: I have no opinion on the game itself because I frankly don’t care about it because I’m not the biggest Ubisoft fan outside of Rayman. Nor does the above necessarily reflect my opinion on the game’s historical accuracy. I’ve always loved The Last Samurai and Memoirs of a Geisha though and find both beautiful and touching films, so make of that as you will.
The only thing I can think of is The Last Samurai is a 20 year old movie and that somehow means not bringing up this historic fictional movie = you’re okay about a white dude becoming a samurai but not okay about a black dude becoming a samurai.
You should watch the movie. Cruise’s character does not become a samurai. He spends time with the last samurai.
You should read the rest of my post. You would have learned that I have watched it.
If that was true then why did you completely misstate what the movie was about? Cruise does not become a samurai at any point.
There is a lot of highly critical discourse around the Last Samurai. Not current, because it’s not a current movie, but saying that it’s “okay” suggests
youthey haven’t looked for criticism.Also, weary.
Edit: clarity.
Edit2: I have since been made aware by @[email protected] of a different perspective that makes a lot more sense, see comments below.
Yup, Last Samourai is 22 years old. Back then a lot of social issues have not been widely discussed.
In 2003? What are you talking about? The only thing we weren’t talking about by then was trans-rights.
The uncomfortable racism was noted.
And even then, there were people who were uncomfortable with a narrative of some heroic white dude coming in to save the exotic natives. Just wasn’t a very popular opinion.
Yeah but it was the other side of the spectrum. It weren’t right wing racist who were mad but SJWs who didn’t see the movie and don’t understand that the word Samurai in the title is plural not singular.
Oh you’re saying that this is about right wingers who think the Last Samurai is okay (while Ass Creed isn’t).
… That… makes sense. Huh. I hadn’t seen it that way.
Lol as good as the production looked even as a white dude I kind of cracked up at Tommy in that role.
The Last Shogun appears to have the same thing going but idk I havn’t watched it yet.
I thought so too in the beginning. But the English character in that series is more of a… Useful tool that gets used. He has no agency and he never realises it throughout the entire series.
I’m not sure if The Last Shogun is something different, but if you’re referring to the Shogun series recently adapted by FX, I can say having watched it that it features a main character who fancies himself a superior white savior, but ultimately leads to realizing how completely out of his depth he is.
But it’s like the Memoir of a Geisha problem: since the original work was written by a white dude anyways, how much value does it have as a cultural work?
I think it’s wary, not weary. Could go either way, I guess.
Headline makes it sound Ubisoft posted this, but it doesn‘t look like it.
I was misinformed by an Azerbaijani home electronics swap meet board
Nah I think both of these are examples of pandering. The Last Samurai is even worse because there was no reason at all for Tom Cruise to be there historically. Yasuke at least was a real samurai and I think if you were to ignore the fact that ubisoft is obviously pandering for publicity and cash his story isn’t much different than Will Adams’ portrayal in Shogan.
Say what you will about the white savior trope, but wasn’t there a historical reason for Tom Cruise’s character to be there? Japan was accepting foreign influence and modernization at that time, from what I know of history.
Except The Last Samurai isn’t remotely historical.
Tom Cruise’s is very roughly based in a French admiral. That admiral got sent specifically to Japan to create political relations with a certain faction of Samurai to further French interests there. The French admiral was made samurai as honorary title and put into service of the household.
During the final battle (which was a castle siege, and both sides were using guns), the French admiral was released from service and sent home.
If a movie or a series were to be made of this, and if it were to be somewhat accurate, it’d be closer to a political thriller with some battles in between.
Good thing I was expecting historical fiction then and not a documentary or even a dramatization of true events.
It can be a bit of both. You can tell a good story that also stays true to the historical events. Not being being able to do that shows a lack of skill and imagination.
To tell a story history is not binding. It neither a lack of skill or imagination - it’s an intended. What you have shown is a lack of understanding of the art of telling a story.
Are you telling me The Last Samurai wasn’t skillfully made or imaginative? Nah, it was no masterpiece, but I liked it just fine. Having some westerners in Japan training their military on modern weaponry as the samurai are fading from relevance passes my threshold for “remotely historical”, and it’s definitely not a requirement for me that Tom Cruise’s character needs to have an American historical analog to meet that criteria. Any historical fiction will inherently have to change things about what actually happened in that era, after all.
It was not skillfully made or imaginative. It was a very basic toybox of exotic nonsense about Samurai wrapped around a premise similar to Dances With Wolves.
I think you missed the sarcasm in the rhetorical question, but yes. It’s one of at least three or four movies I’ve seen utilizing the Dances With Wolves trope, though I’ve never seen Dances With Wolves itself, and that’s okay. It was entertaining.
Yeah I was wrong. He’s based off of Jules Brunet who was a french officer that trained the Tokugawa samurai in the use of modern weaponry of the time. He sided with the resistance against the emperor of Japan until he was evacuated by a french warship later on when the resistance was defeated. He wasnt a samurai by any means but he was a real guy
Ubisoft didn’t post this
That’s some grade A vintage racism right there.
In the same way that someone replaced all rainbow flags with confederate battle flags in Spiderman, someone’s gonna mod the game to change the character’s texture, then racists will also be happy (unless the game is shitty idk).
I learnt the trope of the “white Savior” thanks to last samurai, and that was eons ago.
This is not a case of double standards, it’s plain racism and influencer grifting.
Joke’s on you; neither are OK. The Last Samurai is only good to those with weird exotic ideas about Samurai, Japan, and that time period.
Would be cool if there was a series about the actual French admiral that movie is based on, and all the political miandering that happened in that time.
Loved the film as a kid, would be down to watch that series if it was ever created!
It’s an actor ACTING as someone else that’s the whole point of ACTING. People need to stop with this bullshit.
How do you act like you have black skin, for instance?
How do you act as anyone else ever? Unless you are a genetic clone of the person you must not be allowed to act!
Acting is not about changing the appearance.
Race is relevant since it tells us quite a bit about someone and people of different races are and have historically been treated differently by society. Japanese people, for instance, were(still are) quite xenophobic.
Why not cast an african or a white person as the Emperor of Japan then? Can’t they act?
Let’s have a white Martin Luther King. Let’s make black people play slaveowners and whip other blacks around, surely they can act quite well.
You’re right. We should absolutely, not once, not ever, have a person who doesn’t perfectly, down to the finest detail, match the description of the character they are depicting act for that role.
I saw a local stage play of madame web where a woman played a male character. It literally wasn’t even a distraction and they sold the character well.
Game seems cool, but it requires a download to play. They don’t meet my basic requirements for a game I’d even consider buying.
“doesn’t have to be downloaded” is a basic requirement of a game for you in 2025?
Yep! And it’s really surprising to me that so many people are OK with that sort of defective-by-design anti-feature. It’s a single player game, why would it have any dependence on networks or servers of any sort?
Not to say that I’m against digital distribution altogether, I think that’s a perfectly valid preference w/ pros and cons.
But if you are going to sell the video game on a disc? Shipping a whole playable game seems like a pretty low bar to meet. Most games (that get a physical release) in [current year], for every year that exists so far, don’t have a problem managing to do this.
… Are there discs that can contain 123GB of data? Should they just start distributing tiny solid state drives you plug in to your pc and play from?
Fair point, some games are very big. FFVII Rebirth and Baldur’s Gate 3 shipped on 2 discs though, it’s not unheard of.
They fit GTA V on a single disk on launch. Sure, textures were blocky and effects looked like piss but you could play the entire game offline.
