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    I’m not even mad at the trump supporters. I’m mad at the elements of the other 2/3s of the country that have probably spent every day leading up to and after the election bitching about how horrible Trump is but couldn’t be fucking bothered to get out to vote to prevent his ass from getting elected.

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      Yeah. Trump supporters are stupid and loud. But they are also engaged. They’re engaged with an alternate reality entirely devoid of facts, but engaged.

      I’m much more concerned about the masses that are too stupid to understand what a democracy is, why it’s important, and therefore, are totally disengaged.

      That level of carelessness is outright terrifying.

      Democracy is a vaccine we must continue to develop and administer on a regular basis or we will succumb to the cancer that is…well… anything else.

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      They are Trump supporters. Not voting is also decision. You vote “I’m fine with whoever wins”.

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    “A dope” — Former National Security Advisor HR McMaster

    “A fucking moron” — Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson

    “An idiot” — Former Chief of staff Reince Preibus

    “An idiot” — Former Chief of Staff John Kelly

    “An idiot” — Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin

    “An idiot surrounded by clowns” — Gary Cohn

    “An idiot with the intelligence of a kindergartner” — Former National Security Advisor HR McMaster

    “Breaking—Trump is still an idiot” — (former) Trump supporter and right wing columnist Ann Coulter

    “Donald’s an idiot” — Former Trump attorney Michael Cohen

    “Dumb as a rock” — Rex Tillerson

    “Dumb as shit” — Former economic advisor Gary Cohn

    “He is truly an idiot.” — Former Trump attorney Jenna Ellis

    “He’s an idiot.” — Former advisor Sam Nunberg

    “I honestly and truly believe my Schnauzer (dog) could do a better job.” — Federal chair under Trump Janet Yellen

    “Less a person than a collection of terrible traits” — Former chief economic adviser Gary Cohn

    “Like an 11-year old child” — Former advisor Steve Bannon

    “Like trying to figure out what a child wants” — Former White House deputy chief of staff Katie Walsh

    “Moron King” — Podcaster Joe Rogan

    “Not only crazy…stupid” — (former?) Trump friend Tom Barrack

    “Sick of being a wet nurse to a 71-year-old man” — Steve Bannon

    “Someone who sucks up and shits down” — Former Fox News chief Roger Ailes

    “The White House has become an adult day care center” — Republican Senator Bob Corker

    “This guy is a complete and total moron” — Federal chair under Trump Janet Yellen

    “Too dumb to testify” — John Dowd, during the Mueller investigation

    “Unhinged” — John Kelly

    “What an idiot” — Rod Dreher, senior editor at The American Conservative

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      Who downvoted FACTS? I can see if it was dis-information or even just my opinion but FACTS???

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        Not going to lie, for the first chunk of the list I thought I was reading quote of what Trump called those people — not the other way around!

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        They probably downvoted your formatting. It wasn’t obvious at first that you were listing quotes people said describing Trump.

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          OK, It was not recognizing the line break for some reason. Copy and paste from a LebreOffice text document. It’s my first time doing that. I’ll work on it.

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            • “A dope” — Former National Security Advisor HR McMaster

            • “A fucking moron” — Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson

            • “An idiot” — Former Chief of staff Reince Preibus

            • “An idiot” — Former Chief of Staff John Kelly

            • “An idiot” — Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin

            • “An idiot surrounded by clowns” — Gary Cohn

            • “An idiot with the intelligence of a kindergartner” — Former National Security Advisor HR McMaster

            • “Breaking—Trump is still an idiot” — (former) Trump supporter and right wing columnist Ann Coulter

            • “Donald’s an idiot” — Former Trump attorney Michael Cohen

            • “Dumb as a rock” — Rex Tillerson

            • “Dumb as shit” — Former economic advisor Gary Cohn

            • “He is truly an idiot.” — Former Trump attorney Jenna Ellis

            • “He’s an idiot.” — Former advisor Sam Nunberg

            • “I honestly and truly believe my Schnauzer (dog) could do a better job.” — Federal chair under Trump Janet Yellen

            • “Less a person than a collection of terrible traits” — Former chief economic adviser Gary Cohn

            • “Like an 11-year old child” — Former advisor Steve Bannon

            • “Like trying to figure out what a child wants” — Former White House deputy chief of staff Katie Walsh

            • “Moron King” — Podcaster Joe Rogan

            • “Not only crazy…stupid” — (former?) Trump friend Tom Barrack

            • “Sick of being a wet nurse to a 71-year-old man” — Steve Bannon

            • “Someone who sucks up and shits down” — Former Fox News chief Roger Ailes

            • “The White House has become an adult day care center” — Republican Senator Bob Corker

            • “This guy is a complete and total moron” — Federal chair under Trump Janet Yellen

            • “Too dumb to testify” — John Dowd, during the Mueller investigation

            • “Unhinged” — John Kelly

            • “What an idiot” — Rod Dreher, senior editor at The American Conservative

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    I can’t see this ending without extreme violence. If someone sees a way out without that let me know I could use the positivity but it feels like civil war territory

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    The problem is neoliberalism. It imples fascism or feudalism. The Democrats will only accelerate the development as long as they stay neoliberal.

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    I was literally told by my remaining idiot MAGAt friend that I was “falling for the media’s garbage” about Project 2025, i.e. Trump didn’t know anything about, it was obviously just a ploy to lose him votes.

    I have zero doubt his opinion was manufactured and flushed through various podcasts, streamers, and old school talk radio shit.

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    Yeah well I didn’t need a warning I needed Dems to not be useless and purposely lose a culture war so Netanyahu can murder children and sexually assault literally everyone possible

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    Yup. Dems should not have strong armed H. Clinton through the primaries in 2016. EVERYTHING would have been different.

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      Yes, 100% of the blame for the world we live in falls on HRC and DWS. None of the fault lies with the people that are actively tearing the country apart, the party members enabling them, or the idiots that voted for it…or voted third party…or abstained from voting entirely…in 2024, despite being told multiple times exactly what would happen. Sometimes even straight from the horeses mouth.

      Nope. It’s all because of the Dems. They did this. Those bastards.

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        Nope. It’s all because of the Dems. They did this. Those bastards.

        You’re being sarcastic, but yes, part of this problem goes back to that. History has proven that inventing superdelegates to subvert democracy in their own primary process was an absolutely horrible idea. It was also a fascist one.

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        When there’s a rabid dog running around loose and its owner refuses to put it down, you don’t blame the dog, you blame the owner. The dog is a lost cause; only the owner has agency to change anything.

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          So following this analogy, you blame the voters? Or the citizens (including those who didn’t vote)?

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            I’m just explaining why people aren’t wasting their time talking about the group that’s a lost cause.

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              You mentioned blame though, and it seems like people are somehow putting the blame on the person holding the gun trying to put down the rabid dog.

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        Imagine thinking politicians are owed votes no matter what they do or promise. You’re beyond cooked. Here’s hoping the Dems and Republicans accelerate the US to a speedy demise.

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          Yes, let others suffer en masse. What a fine example of smug selfishness; perfectly adjacent to MAGA.

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      Can’t wait for Gavin Newsom to decide it’s his turn next, despite having less chance of winning than a snowball has of not vaporizing in hell.

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      Once more with this foolish narrative, Hillary lost to Bernie handily throughout the primary, my own vote for the man be damned.

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      They not only broke their own primary process, but they got sued for it in Florida and argued it was their right to do so.

      Patently absurd, but they did it and got away with it.

      They just need to stop crowning candidates.

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    These memes are stupid.

    These same things have been happening for two decades: The Patriot Act, extraordinary rendition (ie, kidnappings), foreign black sites (Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, etc), torture, and genocide against civilians. Obama even invented the term ‘enemy combatant’ so his military wouldn’t have to record how many civilians their drones were killing. Hell, Tom Homan was an Obama appointee.

    AND YOU ALL VOTED FOR IT.

    AS DID I.

    We could have stopped this in its tracks, but we rewarded it, and now it’s normal.

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      Oh, shut the hell up. You damn well that kidnapping college students off the streets to send them to prison labor camps is SEVERAL STEPS beyond anything that happened in the past.

      For real, fuck off. Do something productive. Be better.

      And also, be less of a pathetic liar. Obama did not invent the phrase “enemy combatant”. I was there when GWB used it every damn day.

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        prison labor camps is SEVERAL STEPS

        This happened regularly, and was reported on, during the War on Terror. Teens and the elderly were likewise kidnapped.

        The difference is there wasn’t a camera on every corner.

        Do some introspection here, and maybe, I dunno, read a history book.

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      Everything really is all the same to you isn’t it. You can’t see any degree of separation.

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        Did you happen to see the video of Trump and Obama yukking it up together at Jimmy Carter’s funeral? This was, what, mere weeks after consistently making Trump/Hitler comparisons.

        I think if you look at the practices I described above and how they’ve escalated and become normalized over time, across multiple Democratic and Republican presidencies, that yes, it’s hard to come to a reasonable conclusion that there’s a meaningful difference between what’s happening now and what happened in the 2000’s and 2010’s.

        And that’s particularly true because Obama and Bush were re-elected and thus rewarded for escalating fascism in America.

        The only difference is that we’re getting a closer view to it and the information isn’t coming out in leaked or declassified documents. It’s always been just as sensational as the video we saw yesterday.

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        I respect you for that tremendously. I didn’t vote for it every time, but Obama was the last straw for me, and is why I vote Green now.

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      It’s like the pilot of a plane saying “well I warned you we were going to crash into that mountain, you idiot.” Not only did they fail to avoid it, they apparently had no plan in place for what to do after they crashed the damn plane.

      This whole community skews hard towards dumb neolib slop. I still follow it because it’s honestly kind of fascinating to watch liberals respond to any pushback with the same blind rage that you’d encounter on r/conservative. The replies to your comment are a perfect example.

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        It’s like they slept through the Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden administrations.

        I suppose, in a way, they did.