Red Bull - European but Far right

Buy European but … Also with ethical considerations.

Red Bull might sound cool, but they have their own TV station in Austria. (servus TV) And that station js beyond far right. Spreading disinformation, and Russian propaganda, Corona Bullshi, Ivermectint, cleaning stuff with chlorid, climate change deniers, … If there is a conspiracy they support it …

(And it’s also not very healthy,…)

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    Reminder: Arguing and discussion is okay, but keep it civil and do not attack the person you are arguing with.

    Edit: locking discussion as we don’t have enough resources to keep an eye on this post.

    A tip for new users: if you want to continue the discussion of a locked post: there is a community for continuing discussions on locked posts [email protected].

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      Did you just got here from reddit or what? Or is it some toung in cheek /s stuff too elaborate for me?

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        No, I’m not new. This account is new because you can’t use mod tools properly if your account is on a separate instance from the modded community (e.g. you don’t get reports, can’t sticky stuff, etc).

        And you also might not actually see the whole discussion going on here since you are on lemmy.world due to defederation between lemmy.world and other instances and so. I’m just reminding everyone to keep it civil since this community has had heated discussions before and the discussion easily slips into nationalism, which is against our rules.

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    Ahh. So “far right” as in not repeating western propaganda. Not “far right” as in the literal Nazi parties rising throughout Europe again.

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    I try to buy european but i think it’s important to remind ourselves that we have shit companies in Europe that don’t deserve our business. Red Bull, Nestlé, Müllermilch all these mf can suck it.

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      What’s up with Müllermilch? I haven’t bought it in a while because it wasn’t very healthy anyway. But i didn’t know the company itself was bad

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    I am permanently banned from making Reddit accounts because I got about 4 of them banned for “promoting violence”.

    The violence? Telling people it was a good thing to punch Nazis. Reddit is a Nazi safe space.

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      I got banned, three times so far, for baiting and calling out ruzzian trolls. Apparently, telling them to go dig a fresh latrine pit for babushka, is inciting violence. Assholes.

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      Remember when you could say things like “The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi”? Wasn’t even that long ago.

      Seriously, fuck Nazis. All of a sudden you’ve got Nazis in government and we’re supposed to act like you should tolerate that shit. Hmmm.

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      Yep, permanently banned here for “ban evasion” though I only know 1 sub I was banned from and I never went there after. That’s okay, helped me quit what is clearly a hollow shell of user participation filled with a corpo bot sludge. It’s really easy to VPN up and make another account anyway, but why play in the garbage heap?

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      I got a warning for upvoting pro-Canada stuff like “elbows up”. That is apparently promoting violence.

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    But also be mindful of the fact that the more rules you add for people to be part of a movement, the less members the movement will have.
    The “Buy European” protest is about sending a message of resistance against the current US regime, as well as reducing reliance on US products.
    It doesn’t require you to only buy ethically spotless products.
    That simply isn’t possible in our system.

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    Damn, red bull is my energy drink of choice. Anyone got a good alternative that doesn’t use alternative sweetener? So many of them use them and I can’t stand the flavor they have.

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      Any off-brand energy is fine. Aldi has a pretty good one though it does use artificial sweeteners instead of, or in combination with, sugar.

      Alternatively, give mate a try. Mio Mio has lots of flavours to choose from. The classic Club Mate is also always a gold choice. Pomegranate and peach iced tea are my favourites :)

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        24 hours ago

        I usually buy my energy drinks from gas stations, so I guess I’ll have to see what off brands they have. I am interested in mate, I’ll have to see what’s available near me. Thank you.

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    10 to 15 years back when I still watched tv, I loved Servus TV: news, lots of documentaries, reports and some panel shows. Like, TV before enshittification. Absolutely nothing even remotely close to what this post is suggesting. Has it gone down since then, or is this post misinformation? Can anybody who’s still watching TV confirm this?

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    In the UK, not a fan of tea or coffee. I rarely use caffeine at all, but there are some days where I’m falling asleep at my desk and I need something.

    Any recommendations?

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    Wait really? I live in the US granted but I don’t want to support any company that does heinous shit like this.

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      It’s greatly exaggerated, on ServusTV they just have all kind of people, so sometimes stupid people are there too. They have this format „Rechts-Links-Mitte“ (right left center) where they typically have around five people with heavily varying positions discussing with each other. So no, it’s not them supporting conspiracies but rather trying to find people for these discussions. On the other hand it means that the others get the chance to debunk fake news and conspiracies in those discussions, potentially getting viewers to change their position. You don’t achieve that by making these people not watch any discussions because “their guy” isn’t there anyway.

      Before our election I liked watching their news since the ORF (öffentlich rechtlicher Rundfunk - our official TV where all the important stuff is) only talked about what’s wrong with so many people to make them vote for the FPÖ (far right party) and how they could be made reasonable again (blame on the people for voting for that party) while Servus TV talked about why people are voting for them and what other parties potentially could change to gain them back (blame on the parties for making decisions that led to losing voters to the FPÖ) (to clarify, I didn’t vote for the FPÖ and never world, I’m heavily opposing quite a few of their policies - regardless I can’t deny that they wouldn’t be as strong if our other parties acted differently, many people simply are voting for the FPÖ to express their protest which is why its good to discuss about what the other parties should change).

      ServusTV also has great documentaries (mostly about Austria and neighbouring countries, for example about a group of mountains (sometimes even singular mountains), or about hiking trails, mountainbiking routes, ski touring, climbing, about a river, a lake, a city, a castle, a church, …).

      My favourite aspect is that Red Bull heavily invests in sports, sponsoring many people that wouldn’t be able to follow their (often niche) sport without them.

      Absolutely not a company that deserves a boycott imo. (I don’t buy anything from them though because I usually only drink water.)

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        Dude, they literally invite some of the biggest names in modern Eurofascism to be on their shows. The English-language portion on ServusTV’s politics is just a short introduction. Switch to the German-language one for greater depth.

        I’ve watched them in the past myself for their mountaineering programs, but after learning about their far-right connections, I’m unlikely to do so again. Because, even in that sense, the mountaineering connection becomes quite suspect given the historical ties between fascist ideology, aesthetics and the mountains of southern Germany/Austria. Susan Sontag outlined it better than I can.

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        That’s a half truth.

        In that Format mentioned, they always make sure to have a 4 to 1 superiority in numbers against any center or left people and also only have them there for show. It is designed to tell people, that they are open for discussion. But in truth they spread far right propaganda and Russian propaganda. (Which is the same in Austria, since the FPÖ is famously “brought” and backed bay Putin.).

        Recently their main host description of Ukraine was “drug fueled Nazi war mongers who attacked Russia”.

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    DON’T. LET. PERFECT. BE. THE. ENEMY. OF. GOOD

    It’s still European, even though not ideal. What’s worse, to fund right-wing nuts (here or elsewhere), or to fund a (probably in the making) fascist state?

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    Holy shit what is up with the reddit mods? I posted a screenshot of a Mastodon post there yesterday, that basically said if youre switching us big tech for eu big tech you’re not doing enough and that we have to support decentralized tech. Deleted in 5 minutes because it “posts should be relevant to european made products”

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      I mean i prefer a faceless capitalist conglomerate from Europe to one from the US but it sure doesn’t feel great.