Sure, there was the attempted assassination of Reagan and the fears for Obama as the first black President, but in those cases it was a lone nutter rather than a conspiracy.
How long can Trump crash the market before an angry billionaire decides to take him out? The remaining Koch brother is already pouring money into legal challenges against Trump…
A public assassination like Kennedy’s is meant to send a message. Trump would just have a cardiac event and never come out of the hospital. The real issue will be that he’s old and fat and eats trash, so he could have a legit health problem and die from natural causes easily at his age.
But then, President JD Vance. I don’t think anyone but Peter Thiel and Elon Musk want that. Trump sucks, but he’s the devil you know. Vance could be turboHitler or just hand the whole country to Silicon Valley. Rule by ChatGPT may be the worst of all possible worlds.
YES. This guy gets it. Nobody understands how lucky we are to have this fuckwit as president. Do you see all these actual fascists constantly up in his prostate? Trump was a proof of concept. These taint-lickers are panting to have control. Let’s see how his mouth-breathing paint-eating constituency acts when this fat fuck is dead. Probably no different, but maybe.
Yeah but the difference is Trump has the magnetism and Vance doesn’t? Usually when a cult leader dies the whole cult kinda fizzles out.
Tell that to the Christians. You might even say their leader dying sparked the whole thing.
We could make a religion out of this.
I think what you call “magnetism” is the balls to straight up lie to your supporters like they’re stupid. Seriously, I think Trump demonstrated that you can just say whatever feels good and people will accept it with zero regard for reality. That’s what was assumed false before Trump. I think they know the game plan now.
But he also says it stupid like them, in a way that can’t be faked. That’s why they love him. It’s the classic “wanting to hear your opinion in someone else’s voice”. They want to hear their shitty opinions in someone else’s voice. Except because they’re idiots, they get grammar and syntax wrong. Or they ramble through a dozen conspiracy theories in a single run on sentence. No one but trump can carry on the way he does (at least without a script).
Sure the cult does, but the dictatorship they left doesn’t fizzle out.
I don’t know if you even need the magnetism. Vance has shown he can lie just as bald-facedly As Trump does. For god sakes there was a time where the Republican hordes were carry ground cups of JD Vance cum or something. Does no one remember that? I wouldn’t be so sure they wouldn’t just transfer right to him.
I agree but I believe that’s why his underlings are using him as a front to destroy all checks and balances so when he does fizzle out, they can keep control.
WE ARE NOT LUCKY TO HAVE A FUCKING HALF-DEAD RETARD AS PRESIDENT. THIS IS NOT OKAY AT ANY FUCKING LEVEL.
Your president is half-dead on a few levels sweetie.
The only thing possibly holding them off is that there’s 2 or 3 factions all wanting to long knife™ eachother at the first chance, which means they have to be ready to go as soon as the power vacuum happens, and one of the factions controls the VP seat.
That might delay the chaos a bit, but not for long.
Let’s see how his mouth-breathing paint-eating constituency acts when this fat fuck is dead. Probably no different, but maybe.
Trump and the media have built a cult of personality around Trump. I don’t see how that power could transfer to another person, I can’t think of another person in the line up that has personality.
I disagree, and I’ll point you to down-ballot MAGA Republicans who are running and winning saying the same things. I strongly believe that this has nothing to do with Trump’s “personality”, it’s to do with what he was first willing to say and get away with. Nobody assumed you could get away with it and succeed.
Vance has no conviction behind anything he ever says. Just google “jd vance never trump” and I’m sure you’ll find a slew of videos from a few years ago where he was saying he’s “a never trump guy”.
Kinda funny how quickly he spread his asshole to present himself for trump then.
Vance could be relatively good. Signs point to no, but those signs are weak. The only thing I truly know about him is that he’ll lie for power. What he does once he gets that power is anyone’s guess.
He’s close to Peter Thiel. His book is really fucking condescending towards the rural poor. (Why don’t they just get out like he did?) He’s young enough to go for a second term if he gets half a first term. And he hates Trump except when he needs to use him to gain power.
That’s the complete record of what we know about Vance. Maybe his book was bullshit that he knew would play well with rich conservatives. Maybe he was using Peter Thiel. Maybe there’s a human in there we’ve never seen. Or maybe not.
Trump crashing the economy, Trump dying from whatever, Vance taking over and taking credit for any kind of recovery sounds almost like its planned.
Nah. The damage Trump has done can’t be undone.
Sure vance might replace him and take credit for any recovery, but this level of destruction was not planned.
anyone but Peter Thiel and Elon Musk want that.
And Putin
Trump sucks, but he’s the devil you know. Vance could be turboHitler or […]
I don’t buy that.
Whoever would be able, and willing, and succeeding with the first one, is an evil person, and would already have a plan with the second one. An evil plan, I guess, that would make the second one scared enough to become that puppet.
I’m personally scared that you’re allowed to vote.
Is this some USA defaultism I’m sensing
Not anywhere near you.
Where exactly are you allowed to cast a vote?
So scared?
Hitler survived 30+ attempts, so don’t count on it. The people running this simulation wants to watch us suffer.
Ok this might be my new favourite conspiracy
Our universe is a simulation created by a group of facists that are using us to research how they can gain and maintain power. If a successful fascist regime takes hold then the experiment will be over and the simulation will be shut off, the only way to survive is to continue to fend off fascisum.
I don’t think it’s at all likely. Trump knows he’s hated, and he isn’t about to go and do a parade in a convertible. More importantly, the secret service knows he’s hated and know they screwed up huge in letting someone take a shot at him, so they’ve dialed security up to 11.
Reagan and JFK were shot at a time when they had extremely high approval ratings. It was probably harder for the secret service to stay focused and for everyone to take threats seriously when that was the case.
This isn’t a Hollywood movie where a billionaire can go on the dark web and hire The Jackal or something. If they were to try to place a hit, most of The Jackals out there are probably feds posing as hitmen.
But, let’s say somehow a billionaire could find people willing to make the attempt. Trying to assassinate the US president is a suicide mission. If someone tries to do it as a lone gunman, they’re going up against the entire secret service. They may get the attack in, but they’re almost certainly not going to get away. If it’s a group of attackers, the more people, the more communications, the more communications, the more opportunities for the NSA to spot them.
And, this is one time we don’t have to worry about nation-states attacking the president. The US is punching itself in the dick over and over right now. If you’re someone who wants the US to fail, you just have to stand by and watch. In fact, if an enemy’s surveillance of the US turned up a plan to kill Trump, they’d probably warn the secret service to make sure Trump stays in power as long as possible.
i had a friend in the drama department in college. he was an idiot. he was one of those guys who got older every year but his girlfriends didn’t. a few years after we all graduated, we all went our ways. word made it through the grapevine one day because we all got google alerts. he’d been arrested by the feds, and not for statutory like we’d all first assumed. nah, he couldn’t get a job after college so he tried to convince an undercover ATF officer to engage in some light terrorism/treason as a way of blowing off steam. funniest thing is, my mom and that ATF officer’s wife go on vacation together like twice a year (they lived in my hometown for fifteen years, we’re friends).
uh, fuck. i’m sure there was a point to this story. if i remember i’ll get back to it.
i’m trying to remember if there was something about my idiot felon friend who i think is stupid enough to get tricked into being a patsy or something about my myopic but wellmeaning fed friend that was relevant. twas one or tother. i’m very tired an [8]. it may take me some time to figure it out.
But what happens when you tell trump how GOOD he would look in a convertible in a large parade?
He’d know what it would do to his hair, he’d never risk that.
“hair”
There’s a reason I didn’t say “hairs”. I believe he has one and it gets wrapped around and around and around and around and around…
A suicide mission might not be as much of an issue if someone’s entire life is in shambless due to economic collapse, no healthcare and God knows what else is cooking up over there in the US. I mean, you’re prolly very tight that the feds are on top of it, but human life can be pretty squishy, especially for a ca. 80 y.o. man. Someone could leave a carrot on the white house doorstep and he might trip and snap his neck, who knows.
But I’m more curious about the people who lose everything, are getting truly desperate, and have nothing left to fear.
Yeah, people forget that there are entire generations of Americans whose only feasible retirement plans are suicide or homicide
No, the secret service did not screw that up. They told the Trump campaign they could not secure the area and the campaign ignored them. Trump is far dumber than Hitler. Hitler had people protecting him and he respected their work. Trump dismisses anything that mildly annoys or inconveniences him. He absolutely will be shot, we just have no idea when or what country will get credit for the kill.
What country would want him shot? He’s destroying the US more effectively than any enemy could ever hope to do.
Countries outside the US don’t see it as an enemy, but as a wealthy partner. Having that partner suddenly go insane and lashing out at its friends due to a malignant brain tumour is sad to see. They might well support surgery to remove the tumour in the hope that their former partner can one day recover.
What world do you live in where you don’t understand that the US has many enemies?
Sure it does, but most countries see the US as an ally and a valuable trading partner.
Many countries saw the US as an ally, they don’t anymore.
You are assuming it’s an enemy I was referring to. Trump is really hurting our allies and they are in a dangerous place right now because of him. He’s not stopping. He’s making other countries vulnerable. the fastest fix for them is if he dies.
If we’re being real, it’s not likely at all. He’s probably safer than Biden was.
Not only does the secret service impose incredibly tight security (not perfect, mind you), but Trump doesn’t go anywhere except the White House and his shithole golf course.
In order to assassinate him, it would probably have to be an inside job. That seems exceptionally unlikely.
He’s also useful. A lot of the kinds of people who might wish to be rid of him back in the day would much rather put him to use for their own ends.
very small… I mean, can you imagine the accuracy needed for a bullet to find his brain?
Or his heart!
Well how many bullets to the ass do you think it would take to put a man down? Especially considering the generous proportions of Trump’s rump.
Its a target you can’t miss.
The area a sniper shoots to hit is about the size of a peach pit and isn’t actually a part that’s involved in cognition but rather it does all the autonomic shit you need to survive.
This is the type of alternative thinking we need to solve all our problems
Martyrdom is an honour that Trump doesn’t deserve. If we are lucky, he will die in prison of old age.
We will never be lucky, so somebody shoot him now
I’ll take assassination… it will be annoying to watch people act like he his some great figure but at least the damage he is doing will be over. As far as prison goes … heh … never going to happen. Our justice system doesn’t send wealthy individuals to jail… especially ex presidents.
if we’re lucky, he’ll be fed into a chipper shredder feet first on live television as a warning to other would-be fascists.
Statistically, he’ll die of poor health in the next four years. He’s very unhealthy, and very old. Medicine can only do so much.
We thought that when he got covid though.
Some people are kept alive through sheer meanness.
It’s said that the good die young. That orange shitstick might be nearly immortal.
It’s the mean granny rule.
And in that case, access to treatment not available to the general public yet.
I bet it wasn’t horse dewormer for him.
So he got the horse rewormer then. I think you’re onto something
Keep sending him burgers and fries. Fried in lard too.
If he’s got dementia, he’ll probably die within 10 years of his first symptoms, and that’s been a while. It’ll still be too long, obviously.
take out JD. too
I’m still amazed that sniveling bitch JD Vance ever qualified as a US Marine.
It is a testimony to Marine training and the DI’s that they got that couch fucking weirdo Vance up to speed enough to be a Marine.
Marketing aside, any normative young person can pass boot camp. (And basic training) The military gets worried when the pass rates for those courses gets low. Versus keeping pass rates low for schools like special squirrel.
The standards for marines aren’t high in the brains department, just the couch fucking
Shitty people seem to be indestructible, like Hitler and the bunker bomb. Stalin died of a stroke (probably).
I think he’s more likely to have a massive Big Mac Attack and just keel over. Which would be a good thing because his opportunist coattail riders will claw each other to pieces trying to be the top dog, or rat or cockroach. It will frag the whole Magapublican party. I just wish he’d hurry it up. Chow down, Donny boy.
Sadly there have been people who lived to be 99 or 100 while having remarkably unhealthy lifestyles.
Wouldn’t really surprise me if Orangeboy happened to possess superlongevity genes. He’s always had pretty incredible luck for stumbling out of the way of just about every consequence of his own actions.
He does. His father lived a damn long time and his grandfather only died when he died due to the Spanish flu during and after WW1.
Died during and after the war - that’s what I call luck!
It’s hard to say. He’s definitely closer to it than any president since JFK. But security is way better these days. And before the FBI comes knocking on my door, this is just an objective analysis.
We’ve already had a shooter with a near miss. So clearly there’s the will to do this among some segment of the population. Probably a conservative who feels betrayed or person who is truly far left, (not just a progressive).
However, security during the campaign and for JFK was a lot less than it is now. It’s going to be a lot harder to get close enough with a rifle. If you think of a plan the USSS has already thought about it and probably has a counter of some sort.
So while he’s definitely the closest, I don’t think we’ll see another president assassinated unless they do something truly stupid like gut the USSS.
We’ve already had a shooter with a near miss. … Probably a conservative who feels betrayed or person who is truly far left, (not just a progressive).
That person had been searching for info on the schedules of both Biden and trump. That along with some of the other info we learned about him makes me think it wasn’t so much a partisan political motivation as the desire to become famous and/or take someone famous down on his way off the planet.
I mean, it takes all kinds right? A desire to go out big can manifest in so many ways and he didn’t go after an A list actor, or a CEO, or any number of other high profile people. There is a reason he decided on Trump, even if his original impetus was suicide.
That first attempt the shooter was seen beforehand and they did a quick check…he did end uo getting into position again AND took the shot.
Needless to say when security is that incompetent, it is highly likely he’ll see his demise in such a manner.
That’s part of my point though, he’s going to have the very best and about ten times the people on the job as compared to his security detail back then.
Calling it now: it will be one of his MAGA supporters who feels betrayed somehow.
Well they last guy to take shot was
Hell hath no fury like a MAGAt made look stupid
I hear he’s planning a parade even bigger than Anwar Sadat’s.
I think by the time we hit 2026 there will be tens of millions who voted MAGA who wish that last year’s attempt would have succeeded, but logistically, it’s basically impossible now. Anything that might get Trump would probably have to be powerful enough to take out a whole crowd, and that’s just very unlikely.
It’s also debatable whether it would even be a good thing. Political assassinations always have ramifications that weren’t planned for, but on the other hand, Trump is basically a cult leader and cults always shrivel a bit when the leader passes on.
Anything that might get Trump would probably have to be powerful enough to take out a whole crowd, and that’s just very unlikely.
Hard disagree, Ukraine takes consumer drones and turns them into pinpoint bombers or ultra fast suicide drones. They are VERY effective.
IMO the only reason political violence hasn’t been more common is people afraid of losing what they have. But they’re soon to lose it anyway.
You have said the actual truth
I’d say 100% if there was any sort of karmic balance to the universe.
A clean death would not satisfy karma
If there were really karmic balance, Krasnov would die slowly from a humiliating and very painful natural cause.
